By NastyNils·
Motorcycle comparison · Hyper Naked
KTM 1290 Super Duke R (MY2014) vs Yamaha MT-10 (RN78)
KTM 1290 Super Duke R vs Yamaha MT-10: which one to buy, and what actually separates them.
Down a racetrack straight with the throttle wide open, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R doesn't give superbikes an inch. The Yamaha MT-10's throttle wakes a lumpy intake growl that's loud from the first crack. Its crossplane four pulls thick from low revs.
So which one do you buy?
The MT-10 has the edge if…
Daily commuting & city riding
By a nose: MT-10
Your daily ride leans slightly toward the MT-10. The reason: friendlier manners. Fit and price can easily outweigh that.
Character, looks and sound
Slight edge: MT-10
On sound and soul, the MT-10 comes out a touch ahead. The difference is more distinctive styling. Your own eyes and ears outrank this verdict.
Sporty riding on twisty roads
Narrow edge: MT-10
Through a string of corners, the MT-10 feels a little more eager. What tips it: better suspension. The gap is small, so ride both.
Racetrack use
A touch ahead: MT-10
For a day at the track, the MT-10 makes slightly more sense. Thank more suspension adjustment for that.
What makes each one tick
1290 Super Duke R
An Akrapovic full system drags the 1290 Super Duke R's sound and stance toward the Beast prototype it grew from. The power bump from the exhaust is real but modest. Fork and shock feel high-quality and precise, with good feedback. Through corners, it runs with superbikes.
Nils rode the 1290 Super Duke R in Andalusia in 2013, in Andalusia, Austria, Hungary, and the Czech Republic in 2014, in 2015, and in Austria in 2017 (NastyNils Testride).
MT-10
At the lever, there's less initial bite and feedback than rivals with Brembo Stylema calipers give. Its intake amplifier barks in an irregular rhythm.
The Voice of Experience
What actually separates them
- The 1290 Super Duke R makes more peak power: 179 hp (132 kW) vs 165 hp (121 kW).
- The 1290 Super Duke R makes more peak torque: 106 lb-ft (144 Nm) vs 83 lb-ft (112 Nm).
- The 1290 Super Duke R has the larger engine: 1301 cc vs 998 cc.
Which one for the way you ride
Comfortable long-distance riding
Look elsewhere
Long-haul comfort is a weak spot for both. If you tour, shop with that in mind.
Who each one is built for
What's good, and what you'll live with
1290 Super Duke R
Strengths
- Lean Clearance For Days
- Built Right For Tall Riders
- Electronics That Enable, Not Dull
- It Holds Up Long Term
- Brembo M50 stopping power
Trade-offs
- Stock Pipe Sounds Lifeless
- Nothing Between You And The Wind
- Long Sweepers Expose The Chassis
- Insurance Bites Younger Buyers
- Aggressive ergonomics, limited long-distance comfort
MT-10
What owners say
Strengths
- Strong, accessible mid-range from the CP4 crossplane inline-four
- Aggressive, distinctive intake/exhaust soundtrack
Trade-offs
- Front brake feel rated below class-leading rivals
- Wind protection is minimal
Known problems to check before you buy
1290 Super Duke R
- Brembo radial master cylinder plastic piston cracking — recall (NHTSA Recall 18V-033) Recall 18V033000 The plastic (PPS polymer) piston in the front master cylinder could crack or break under heavy load, hard ABS engagement, or after a tip-over, leading to loss of front-brake function. Remedy: dealer replaces the plastic piston with an aluminum piston.
- Fuel tank threaded-insert leak — recall (NHTSA Recall 15V-441) Recall 15V441000 Threaded inserts at the rear of the plastic fuel tank could leak fuel due to a coating-process irregularity in tank manufacture. Risk of fuel ignition if combined with an ignition source. KTM notified affected owners; remedy was inspection and sealing of the inserts, or tank replacement where an existing leak was found.
- Radiator top-rail seam splitting The top-right (sometimes top-left) seam of the radiator splits along the upper rail. Owners attribute the failure to radiator-mount design and stress transfer from the freely-rotating exhaust clamp. Symptom: visible coolant weep from the upper radiator seam, eventual coolant loss and overheating risk.
- Clutch slave cylinder rubber-seal swelling and air ingress The OEM clutch slave cylinder rubber seal swells over time, causing internal corrosion and air ingress in the hydraulic line. Symptoms: milky or dark clutch fluid, hard-to-find neutral, hot-clutch fade, repeated bleeding required. Re-sealing rarely lasts; owners typically replace with billet aftermarket units (Oberon, Rottweiler).
- Hydraulic cam chain tensioner loses pressure The factory cam chain tensioner is hydraulic and runs on engine oil pressure. It can bleed down or fail to hold pressure, which leaves the timing chain slack. The usual symptom is a ticking or rattling noise from the cam chain area, most noticeable at idle or just after a cold start before oil pressure builds.
- Fuel pump failure — low fuel pressure, stalling, no-start "Fuel Pump Failure" warning, bike cuts out, hangs at approximately 5,500 rpm, will not restart. KTM identified the fuel filter and/or pump motor as the cause of low fuel pressure; a replacement kit (seals, gaskets, filters, motor) is supplied by the dealer.
- Rear wheel bearing failure due to swingarm water ingress The Gen 1 single-sided swingarm has no internal drain hole. Water collects inside the swingarm, corroding the rear wheel hub bearings. Symptoms: vague "steering" feel from the rear wheel under on/off throttle. Owners frequently find a half-cup of water when removing the axle adjuster. KTM addressed this on the Gen 2 swingarm by adding a drain hole — a tacit confirmation of the Gen 1 design defect.
- Side-stand sensor failure — no-start or stalling Side-stand sensor fails — often a magnet-related fault contaminated by chain-area debris. Bike will not start or stalls when in gear. The 1290 sensor uses a 50% duty-cycle pulse, so a simple bypass requires a dedicated dongle (Rottweiler, Vanasche).
- Jerky on/off throttle transition at low rpm Snatchy on/off transition at 2,500–3,500 rpm, particularly noticeable in Rain mode. Stock fueling is lean for emissions compliance. Many owners install aftermarket fueling modules (Rottweiler, Power Commander) or apply ECU updates from the dealer; outcomes vary.
- Front fork seals develop weeping / "tide marks" The seals on the WP upside-down fork can start to weep over time. Oily tide marks show up on the fork tubes just below the seals. The leak tends to come on gradually with use rather than being present from new. If left alone, the seeping fork oil leaves a residue that collects road grime and slowly lowers the oil level in the affected leg.
- Front brake light switch error / brake light stuck on Omron switch on the Brembo master cylinder fails. "Front Brake Switch" error appears on the dash; brake light may be stuck on, or a fault code is logged. Wire-routing strain at the master cylinder is the documented cause. Some owners report MTC (traction control) faults as a downstream side effect.
MT-10
- Throttle response abruptness in Mode A / Sport (early MY2022 units) Several owners and reviewers reported snatchy on-off throttle transitions in the most aggressive ride mode on early 2022 production units; Yamaha addressed throttle mapping in later production and via dealer ECU updates.
What they share
- Seat height
- 32.9 in (835 mm)
- Cooling
- Liquid-cooled
- Gearbox
- 6-speed
- Final drive
- Chain
- Front brake
- 320 mm
- Front tire
- 120/70-17
- Rear tire
- 190/55-17
Where the spec sheets split
| 1290 Super Duke R | MT-10 | |
|---|---|---|
| Displacement | 1301 cc | 998 cc |
| Engine | 75° V-twin | Inline-four |
| Power | 179 hp (132 kW) | 165 hp (121 kW) |
| Peak power at | 8,870 rpm | 11,500 rpm |
| Torque | 106 lb-ft (144 Nm) | 83 lb-ft (112 Nm) |
| Peak torque at | 6,500 rpm | 9,000 rpm |
| 1290 Super Duke R | MT-10 | |
|---|---|---|
| Fuel economy | 31 mpg (US) / 7.5 L/100 km | 36 mpg (US) / 6.5 L/100 km |
| Fuel capacity | 4.8 US gal (18 L) | 4.5 US gal (17 L) |
| 1290 Super Duke R | MT-10 | |
|---|---|---|
| Wheelbase | 58.3 in (1482 mm) | 55.3 in (1405 mm) |
What comes fitted, what costs extra
| 1290 Super Duke R | MT-10 | |
|---|---|---|
| Cornering ABS | Standard (from 2017) | Standard |
| Cruise Control | Standard (from 2017) | Standard |
| Quickshifter | Not offered | Standard |
| TFT Display | Standard (from 2017) | Standard |
| Tire Pressure Monitoring (TPMS) | Standard | Not offered |
| LED Headlight | Standard (from 2017) | Standard |
Head to head, area by area
Both bikes on the same scale, one area at a time.