By NastyNils·
Motorcycle comparison · Naked Bike vs Hyper Naked
Triumph Speed Triple 1050 (515NJ) vs Speed Triple 1200 RS (MY2021)
Halfway through a long sweeper, the Triumph Speed Triple 1050 holds its arc as you roll on the gas and won't push wide off the apex. The Triumph Speed Triple 1200 RS talks through its front tire from the moment you tip it in. You'll read the tire's grip right through the bars.
So which one do you buy?
The Speed Triple 1200 RS has the edge if…
Daily commuting & city riding
Inches ahead: Speed Triple 1200 RS
The Speed Triple 1200 RS makes slightly more sense as a commuter. Don't read much into a gap this small.
Riding two-up with a passenger
Narrow edge: Speed Triple 1200 RS
The Speed Triple 1200 RS is slightly kinder to a passenger. Your passenger should still try both.
What makes each one tick
Speed Triple 1050
There's no snap waiting at the top of the Speed Triple 1050's rev range, only a triple that snarls and keeps pulling evenly. Corner entry takes one clean input on the handlebar, which sits close to the saddle, and the bike drops into the bend at once. It won't pivot off sharp jabs. Rounded arcs keep it carving through tight bends.
Speed Triple 1200 RS
In traffic the Speed Triple 1200 RS doesn't show its hand and threads through gaps like a plain middleweight. A street bump isn't soaked up. Those firm factory settings carry straight onto a track day without a single tool. Warm pads scrub off speed with brutal force.
Nils rode the Speed Triple 1200 RS in Hungary in 2021, and in Slovakia in 2023 (NastyNils Testride).
The Voice of Experience
What actually separates them
- The Speed Triple 1050 has the lower seat: 32.1 in (815 mm) vs 32.7 in (830 mm).
- The Speed Triple 1200 RS has the lower wet weight: 437 lb (198 kg) vs 472 lb (214 kg).
- The Speed Triple 1200 RS makes more peak power: 178 hp (132 kW) vs 128 hp (96 kW).
Which one for the way you ride
Comfortable long-distance riding
Not their thing
Big miles aren't where either one shines. You'll be watching for the next rest stop.
Traveling with luggage
Neither one fits
If touring with luggage is the plan, keep looking. Neither one was built around it.
There's no real gap on twisty roads. Sit on both and let fit and price decide.
Who each one is built for
What's good, and what you'll live with
Speed Triple 1050
From Nils' own saddle time
Strengths
- Tips In With One Input
- Brakes You Can Trust
- Planted When You're On The Gas
- Clean, Honest Fueling
- A Big Naked Anyone Can Ride
Trade-offs
- No Savage Top-End Hit
- Rewards Smooth, Not Sharp
- Tight For Bigger Riders
- Gearbox Still Feels Vague
Speed Triple 1200 RS
Strengths
- Relentless, linear pull
- Quickshifter that always works
- Öhlins that reward a setup
- Everyday bike, weekend weapon
- Precise turn-in, clear feedback
Trade-offs
- Traction control plays it safe
- Snatchy throttle on pickup
- Cramped for big riders
- Electronics and software issues
- Suspension too firm on the road
Known problems to check before you buy
Speed Triple 1050
- Sprag clutch/starter gear failure The starter sprag clutch and starter idler gear can fail, producing a loud grinding noise during engine startup and leading to starter slipping or failure to crank.
Speed Triple 1200 RS
- Sudden engine stall during riding without warning Engine stalls suddenly and without warning during riding. No sputtering, no warning lights beforehand. After restart (ignition off/on) everything works again. Possible causes: (1) accidental activation of kill switch (located close to the handlebar grip), (2) exhaust valve problem, (3) electronics fault. Individual cases resolved under warranty (exhaust valve replacement).
- Quickshifter fails at warm temperatures The quickshifter works normally with a cold engine but becomes less reliable as engine and ambient temperatures rise. In hot weather it can stop working entirely on some units, so the rider has to fall back on the clutch for every shift. A transmission fault warning may appear on the display. When hot, the quickshifter sensor stops reporting shift-load values correctly. On some units the fault keeps coming back, even after the sensor has been replaced under warranty.
- Exhaust valve servo/actuator causes fault codes P0475 and limp mode The pressure-sensitive cable between the servo motor and butterfly valve of the exhaust valve is very tight from the factory. Through vibrations or the rider's weight, the sensor is activated and triggers fault codes (P0475). This leads to "Transmission Fault" and "Check Engine" warnings and can trigger limp mode. The small adjustment screws on the valves need minimal fine-tuning. Stones can get jammed in the cable mechanism.
- Gear position sensor reports incorrect values The gear position sensor reports incorrect values, leading to quickshifter failures, incorrect gear display, and "Transmission Fault" warnings. Warranty replacement documented. After replacement, the neutral position must be re-adapted.
- Battery busbar screw on positive terminal too long from factory — loose connection The battery busbar screw on the positive terminal is in some cases too long from the factory, leading to a loose connection. Under vibration, contact is intermittently lost and triggers a cascade of fault messages: "Battery System Fault" followed by "Transmission Fault", "Check Engine", ABS fault, suspension fault. Quickshifter fails, limp mode possible. Restart clears the faults temporarily.
- Exhaust valve cover detaches due to weld fracture on header The exhaust valve cover breaks off at the weld on the header and is lost during riding. The mounting point (tab) is welded onto the mid-section of the header — the weld fractures due to vibrations. Since the part is welded on, the repair requires a complete replacement of the exhaust system. Triumph has provided a revised part.
- "Low Oil Pressure" warning appears intermittently despite adequate oil pressure The "Low Oil Pressure" warning appears intermittently on the display, although actual oil pressure is adequate. Triumph has acknowledged the problem and implemented two measures: (1) Hardware: Oil pump drive gear changed from 28 to 24 teeth (increased oil pressure), (2) Software: Control strategy revised, warning now latches (stays on until ignition off/on). Official NHTSA Technical Service Bulletin MC-10231151-9999 available. Note: Install oil filter AFTER filling oil, NOT pre-fill (NHTSA TSB MC-10203568-9999).
- Keyless fuel cap requires significant force to close / electronic failure The keyless fuel cap requires significant force to close (pressing with palm of hand). The electronic opening mechanism can fail — fuel cap does not open or only after minutes. Individual cases of complete electronics failure during second refueling documented. Remedy: Silicone lubricant on the rubber filler seal ring monthly.
- Navigation and Bluetooth connection of the My Triumph App do not work reliably The My Triumph App frequently loses Bluetooth connection, especially when the phone is in a jacket pocket. Navigation works only sporadically, even after software updates at the dealer. Some owners cannot even register their motorcycle in the app (timeout). Particularly affected: 2021 models. Music streaming often works while navigation simultaneously fails. Many owners use alternative solutions (Garmin, Quad Lock).
What they share
- Engine
- Inline-three
- Cooling
- Liquid-cooled
- Gearbox
- 6-speed
- Final drive
- Chain
- Fork
- Upside-down (USD)
- Front tire
- 120/70-17
Where the spec sheets split
| Speed Triple 1050 | Speed Triple 1200 RS | |
|---|---|---|
| Seat height | 32.1 in (815 mm) | 32.7 in (830 mm) |
| Wet weight | 472 lb (214 kg) | 437 lb (198 kg) |
| Speed Triple 1050 | Speed Triple 1200 RS | |
|---|---|---|
| Displacement | 1050 cc | 1160 cc |
| Power | 128 hp (96 kW) | 178 hp (132 kW) |
| Torque | 77 lb-ft (105 Nm) | 92 lb-ft (125 Nm) |
| Top speed | 150 mph (241 km/h) | 155 mph (249 km/h) |
| Speed Triple 1050 | Speed Triple 1200 RS | |
|---|---|---|
| Fuel economy | 33 mpg (US) / 7.06 L/100 km | 42 mpg (US) / 5.6 L/100 km |
| Fuel capacity | 4.8 US gal (18 L) | 4.1 US gal (15.5 L) |
| Speed Triple 1050 | Speed Triple 1200 RS | |
|---|---|---|
| Rear tire | 180/55-17 | 190/55-17 |
| Wheelbase | 56.1 in (1425 mm) | 56.9 in (1445 mm) |
What comes fitted, what costs extra
| Speed Triple 1050 | Speed Triple 1200 RS | |
|---|---|---|
| ABS | Not offered | Standard |
| Cornering ABS | Not offered | Standard |
| Traction Control | Not offered | Standard |
| Ride Modes | Not offered | Standard |
| Wheelie Control | Not offered | Standard |
| Cruise Control | Not offered | Standard |
| Quickshifter | Not offered | Standard |
| Slipper Clutch | Not offered | Standard |
| TFT Display | Not offered | Standard |
| Smartphone Connectivity | Not offered | Standard |
| Heated Grips | Not offered | Option |
| LED Headlight | Not offered | Standard |
Head to head, area by area
Both bikes on the same scale, one area at a time.