By NastyNils·
Motorcycle comparison · Hyper Naked
KTM 1290 Super Duke R (MY2014) vs Triumph Speed Triple S (NN02A)
Into a fast sweeper the KTM 1290 Super Duke R turns in on stiff springs and doesn't wobble. The Triumph Speed Triple S drops in at a nudge.
So which one do you buy?
The Speed Triple S has the edge if…
Racetrack use
Nose ahead: Speed Triple S
On a circuit, the Speed Triple S feels a little sharper. The reason: more suspension adjustment. The margin is thin, and setup can close it.
Sporty riding on twisty roads
Edges it: Speed Triple S
On a winding road, the Speed Triple S comes out a touch ahead. It's down to better suspension. You wouldn't bet much on a gap like that.
Daily commuting & city riding
By a nose: Speed Triple S
Your daily ride leans slightly toward the Speed Triple S. That comes from friendlier manners. Fit and price can easily outweigh that.
Which one's the smarter buy
No clear winner on value
The price gap doesn't produce a clear winner. Neither bike is the clear better buy for the money.
What makes each one tick
1290 Super Duke R
On a racetrack, the 1290 Super Duke R doesn't need to make excuses. Its riding posture comes from supermoto, and it isn't shaped for all-day comfort. The fork and shock take a bump with precision. The fork reads every ripple back.
Nils rode the 1290 Super Duke R in Andalusia in 2013, in Andalusia, Austria, Hungary, and the Czech Republic in 2014, in 2015, and in Austria in 2017 (NastyNils Testride).
Speed Triple S
A crack of the throttle pulls clean from low revs, and the shove keeps building. On the Angeles Crest Highway, the aluminum frame and Showa suspension hold a line that bumps don't upset. The triple howls toward the top.
The Voice of Experience
What actually separates them
- The 1290 Super Duke R makes more peak power: 179 hp (132 kW) vs 148 hp (110 kW).
- The 1290 Super Duke R makes more peak torque: 106 lb-ft (144 Nm) vs 86 lb-ft (117 Nm).
- The 1290 Super Duke R has the larger engine: 1301 cc vs 1050 cc.
Which one for the way you ride
Comfortable long-distance riding
Look elsewhere
Long days aren't what these two do best. Plan shorter legs and plenty of stops.
These two run dead level on character. Sit on both in the showroom and trust what your body says.
Who each one is built for
What's good, and what you'll live with
1290 Super Duke R
Strengths
- Lean Clearance For Days
- Built Right For Tall Riders
- Electronics That Enable, Not Dull
- It Holds Up Long Term
- Brembo M50 stopping power
Trade-offs
- Stock Pipe Sounds Lifeless
- Nothing Between You And The Wind
- Long Sweepers Expose The Chassis
- Insurance Bites Younger Buyers
- Aggressive ergonomics, limited long-distance comfort
Speed Triple S
What owners say
Strengths
- Addictive fun factor
- Premium build and component quality
- Surprisingly comfortable ergonomics
Known problems to check before you buy
1290 Super Duke R
- Brembo radial master cylinder plastic piston cracking — recall (NHTSA Recall 18V-033) Recall 18V033000 The plastic (PPS polymer) piston in the front master cylinder could crack or break under heavy load, hard ABS engagement, or after a tip-over, leading to loss of front-brake function. Remedy: dealer replaces the plastic piston with an aluminum piston.
- Fuel tank threaded-insert leak — recall (NHTSA Recall 15V-441) Recall 15V441000 Threaded inserts at the rear of the plastic fuel tank could leak fuel due to a coating-process irregularity in tank manufacture. Risk of fuel ignition if combined with an ignition source. KTM notified affected owners; remedy was inspection and sealing of the inserts, or tank replacement where an existing leak was found.
- Radiator top-rail seam splitting The top-right (sometimes top-left) seam of the radiator splits along the upper rail. Owners attribute the failure to radiator-mount design and stress transfer from the freely-rotating exhaust clamp. Symptom: visible coolant weep from the upper radiator seam, eventual coolant loss and overheating risk.
- Clutch slave cylinder rubber-seal swelling and air ingress The OEM clutch slave cylinder rubber seal swells over time, causing internal corrosion and air ingress in the hydraulic line. Symptoms: milky or dark clutch fluid, hard-to-find neutral, hot-clutch fade, repeated bleeding required. Re-sealing rarely lasts; owners typically replace with billet aftermarket units (Oberon, Rottweiler).
- Hydraulic cam chain tensioner loses pressure The factory cam chain tensioner is hydraulic and runs on engine oil pressure. It can bleed down or fail to hold pressure, which leaves the timing chain slack. The usual symptom is a ticking or rattling noise from the cam chain area, most noticeable at idle or just after a cold start before oil pressure builds.
- Fuel pump failure — low fuel pressure, stalling, no-start "Fuel Pump Failure" warning, bike cuts out, hangs at approximately 5,500 rpm, will not restart. KTM identified the fuel filter and/or pump motor as the cause of low fuel pressure; a replacement kit (seals, gaskets, filters, motor) is supplied by the dealer.
- Rear wheel bearing failure due to swingarm water ingress The Gen 1 single-sided swingarm has no internal drain hole. Water collects inside the swingarm, corroding the rear wheel hub bearings. Symptoms: vague "steering" feel from the rear wheel under on/off throttle. Owners frequently find a half-cup of water when removing the axle adjuster. KTM addressed this on the Gen 2 swingarm by adding a drain hole — a tacit confirmation of the Gen 1 design defect.
- Side-stand sensor failure — no-start or stalling Side-stand sensor fails — often a magnet-related fault contaminated by chain-area debris. Bike will not start or stalls when in gear. The 1290 sensor uses a 50% duty-cycle pulse, so a simple bypass requires a dedicated dongle (Rottweiler, Vanasche).
- Jerky on/off throttle transition at low rpm Snatchy on/off transition at 2,500–3,500 rpm, particularly noticeable in Rain mode. Stock fueling is lean for emissions compliance. Many owners install aftermarket fueling modules (Rottweiler, Power Commander) or apply ECU updates from the dealer; outcomes vary.
- Front fork seals develop weeping / "tide marks" The seals on the WP upside-down fork can start to weep over time. Oily tide marks show up on the fork tubes just below the seals. The leak tends to come on gradually with use rather than being present from new. If left alone, the seeping fork oil leaves a residue that collects road grime and slowly lowers the oil level in the affected leg.
- Front brake light switch error / brake light stuck on Omron switch on the Brembo master cylinder fails. "Front Brake Switch" error appears on the dash; brake light may be stuck on, or a fault code is logged. Wire-routing strain at the master cylinder is the documented cause. Some owners report MTC (traction control) faults as a downstream side effect.
Speed Triple S
No confirmed faults on file yet. That's not the same as fault-free.
What they cost used
These prices compare a 7-year-old 1290 Super Duke R with a 7-year-old Speed Triple S.
- 1290 Super Duke R
- about $10,000
- Speed Triple S
- about $7,400
At seven years old, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R sits around $10,000 while the Triumph Speed Triple S lands near $7,400. That's a $2,600 gap in the Speed Triple S's favor. These are US market estimates, not live listings.
What they share
- Cooling
- Liquid-cooled
- Gearbox
- 6-speed
- Final drive
- Chain
- Front brake
- 320 mm
- Front tire
- 120/70-17
- Rear tire
- 190/55-17
Where the spec sheets split
| 1290 Super Duke R | Speed Triple S | |
|---|---|---|
| Seat height | 32.9 in (835 mm) | 32.5 in (825 mm) |
| 1290 Super Duke R | Speed Triple S | |
|---|---|---|
| Displacement | 1301 cc | 1050 cc |
| Engine | 75° V-twin | Inline-three |
| Power | 179 hp (132 kW) | 148 hp (110 kW) |
| Peak power at | 8,870 rpm | 10,500 rpm |
| Torque | 106 lb-ft (144 Nm) | 86 lb-ft (117 Nm) |
| Peak torque at | 6,500 rpm | 7,150 rpm |
| 1290 Super Duke R | Speed Triple S | |
|---|---|---|
| Fuel economy | 31 mpg (US) / 7.5 L/100 km | 45 mpg (US) / 5.2 L/100 km |
| Fuel capacity | 4.8 US gal (18 L) | 4.1 US gal (15.5 L) |
| 1290 Super Duke R | Speed Triple S | |
|---|---|---|
| Wheelbase | 58.3 in (1482 mm) | 56.9 in (1445 mm) |
What comes fitted, what costs extra
| 1290 Super Duke R | Speed Triple S | |
|---|---|---|
| Cornering ABS | Standard (from 2017) | Not offered |
| Wheelie Control | Standard | Not offered |
| Cruise Control | Standard (from 2017) | Standard |
| Quickshifter | Not offered | Option |
| TFT Display | Standard (from 2017) | Standard |
| USB Charging Port | Not offered | Standard |
| LED Headlight | Standard (from 2017) | Standard |
Head to head, area by area
Both bikes on the same scale, one area at a time.