By NastyNils·
Motorcycle comparison · Hyper Naked vs Naked Bike
KTM 1290 Super Duke R (MY2014) vs Triumph Speed Triple R (NN01)
You'll feel the KTM 1290 Super Duke R's harder springs and sportier damping in every bump you hit. Over that same broken pavement, the Triumph Speed Triple R's Öhlins fork and shock don't lose their composure. It settles straight back after each hit.
So which one do you buy?
The Speed Triple R has the edge if…
Keeping running costs low
Edges it: Speed Triple R
The Speed Triple R comes out a little ahead on upkeep. Only a little.
Sporty riding on twisty roads
Narrow edge: Speed Triple R
Back-road fun leans slightly toward the Speed Triple R. That comes from better suspension. It's a narrow call, so trust your test ride.
Daily commuting & city riding
Small edge: Speed Triple R
Day in, day out, the Speed Triple R nudges ahead in traffic. What tips it: friendlier manners. It isn't a big enough gap to plan around.
Which one's the smarter buy
Two different jobs
The 1290 Super Duke R and Speed Triple R sit in different classes, so value is a trade-off. Neither is the obvious better buy for the money.
What makes each one tick
1290 Super Duke R
From a supermoto-style perch, the 1290 Super Duke R doesn't give up ground to superbikes down a racetrack's long straights. Corners don't change that. The throttle answers with the shove of 106 lb-ft (144 Nm) from the V-twin, and there's 179 hp (132 kW) behind it. An Akrapovic system gives the V-twin its voice.
Nils rode the 1290 Super Duke R in Andalusia in 2013, in Andalusia, Austria, Hungary, and the Czech Republic in 2014, in 2015, and in Austria in 2017 (NastyNils Testride).
Speed Triple R
The Speed Triple R's three-cylinder doesn't wait for revs to pull, and it keeps building into a rush near the top. Hard on the brake lever, the bike stops with its chassis composed and the suspension still feeding back what the tires find. Tight transitions expose its extra weight.
The Voice of Experience
What actually separates them
- The 1290 Super Duke R makes more peak power: 179 hp (132 kW) vs 138 hp (103 kW).
- The 1290 Super Duke R makes more peak torque: 106 lb-ft (144 Nm) vs 83 lb-ft (112 Nm).
- The 1290 Super Duke R has the larger engine: 1301 cc vs 1050 cc.
Which one for the way you ride
Comfortable long-distance riding
Wrong job for both
Neither of these is a mile-muncher. If big days are the plan, keep looking.
Traveling with luggage
Neither one fits
Multi-day trips with luggage aren't their thing. Travel light, or travel on something else.
Who each one is built for
What's good, and what you'll live with
1290 Super Duke R
Strengths
- Lean Clearance For Days
- Built Right For Tall Riders
- Electronics That Enable, Not Dull
- It Holds Up Long Term
- Brembo M50 stopping power
Trade-offs
- Stock Pipe Sounds Lifeless
- Nothing Between You And The Wind
- Long Sweepers Expose The Chassis
- Insurance Bites Younger Buyers
- Aggressive ergonomics, limited long-distance comfort
Speed Triple R
What owners say
Strengths
- Smooth, characterful inline-triple engine
- Aggressive yet refined riding character
- Build quality and attention to detail
- Premium Öhlins suspension
Trade-offs
- Heavy for a liter-class naked
Known problems to check before you buy
1290 Super Duke R
- Brembo radial master cylinder plastic piston cracking — recall (NHTSA Recall 18V-033) Recall 18V033000 The plastic (PPS polymer) piston in the front master cylinder could crack or break under heavy load, hard ABS engagement, or after a tip-over, leading to loss of front-brake function. Remedy: dealer replaces the plastic piston with an aluminum piston.
- Fuel tank threaded-insert leak — recall (NHTSA Recall 15V-441) Recall 15V441000 Threaded inserts at the rear of the plastic fuel tank could leak fuel due to a coating-process irregularity in tank manufacture. Risk of fuel ignition if combined with an ignition source. KTM notified affected owners; remedy was inspection and sealing of the inserts, or tank replacement where an existing leak was found.
- Radiator top-rail seam splitting The top-right (sometimes top-left) seam of the radiator splits along the upper rail. Owners attribute the failure to radiator-mount design and stress transfer from the freely-rotating exhaust clamp. Symptom: visible coolant weep from the upper radiator seam, eventual coolant loss and overheating risk.
- Clutch slave cylinder rubber-seal swelling and air ingress The OEM clutch slave cylinder rubber seal swells over time, causing internal corrosion and air ingress in the hydraulic line. Symptoms: milky or dark clutch fluid, hard-to-find neutral, hot-clutch fade, repeated bleeding required. Re-sealing rarely lasts; owners typically replace with billet aftermarket units (Oberon, Rottweiler).
- Hydraulic cam chain tensioner loses pressure The factory cam chain tensioner is hydraulic and runs on engine oil pressure. It can bleed down or fail to hold pressure, which leaves the timing chain slack. The usual symptom is a ticking or rattling noise from the cam chain area, most noticeable at idle or just after a cold start before oil pressure builds.
- Fuel pump failure — low fuel pressure, stalling, no-start "Fuel Pump Failure" warning, bike cuts out, hangs at approximately 5,500 rpm, will not restart. KTM identified the fuel filter and/or pump motor as the cause of low fuel pressure; a replacement kit (seals, gaskets, filters, motor) is supplied by the dealer.
- Rear wheel bearing failure due to swingarm water ingress The Gen 1 single-sided swingarm has no internal drain hole. Water collects inside the swingarm, corroding the rear wheel hub bearings. Symptoms: vague "steering" feel from the rear wheel under on/off throttle. Owners frequently find a half-cup of water when removing the axle adjuster. KTM addressed this on the Gen 2 swingarm by adding a drain hole — a tacit confirmation of the Gen 1 design defect.
- Side-stand sensor failure — no-start or stalling Side-stand sensor fails — often a magnet-related fault contaminated by chain-area debris. Bike will not start or stalls when in gear. The 1290 sensor uses a 50% duty-cycle pulse, so a simple bypass requires a dedicated dongle (Rottweiler, Vanasche).
- Jerky on/off throttle transition at low rpm Snatchy on/off transition at 2,500–3,500 rpm, particularly noticeable in Rain mode. Stock fueling is lean for emissions compliance. Many owners install aftermarket fueling modules (Rottweiler, Power Commander) or apply ECU updates from the dealer; outcomes vary.
- Front fork seals develop weeping / "tide marks" The seals on the WP upside-down fork can start to weep over time. Oily tide marks show up on the fork tubes just below the seals. The leak tends to come on gradually with use rather than being present from new. If left alone, the seeping fork oil leaves a residue that collects road grime and slowly lowers the oil level in the affected leg.
- Front brake light switch error / brake light stuck on Omron switch on the Brembo master cylinder fails. "Front Brake Switch" error appears on the dash; brake light may be stuck on, or a fault code is logged. Wire-routing strain at the master cylinder is the documented cause. Some owners report MTC (traction control) faults as a downstream side effect.
Speed Triple R
- Electrical short from chafing wire (recall) Recall 17V700000 The generator link lead wire may rub against the ABS modulator bracket, damaging insulation and causing an electrical short that can lead to engine stalling. Triumph recall SB552 / NHTSA 17V700000 affected 541 units and required wire replacement and rerouting free of charge.
What they cost used
These prices compare a 10-year-old 1290 Super Duke R with a 10-year-old Speed Triple R.
- 1290 Super Duke R
- about $9,000
- Speed Triple R
- about $7,100
At ten years old, the KTM 1290 Super Duke R sits around $9,000 while the Triumph Speed Triple R lands near $7,100. That's a $1,900 gap in the Speed Triple R's favor. These are US market estimates, not live listings.
What they share
- Cooling
- Liquid-cooled
- Gearbox
- 6-speed
- Final drive
- Chain
- Front brake
- 320 mm
- Front tire
- 120/70-17
- Rear tire
- 190/55-17
Where the spec sheets split
| 1290 Super Duke R | Speed Triple R | |
|---|---|---|
| Seat height | 32.9 in (835 mm) | 32.5 in (825 mm) |
| 1290 Super Duke R | Speed Triple R | |
|---|---|---|
| Displacement | 1301 cc | 1050 cc |
| Engine | 75° V-twin | Inline-three |
| Power | 179 hp (132 kW) | 138 hp (103 kW) |
| Peak power at | 8,870 rpm | 9,500 rpm |
| Torque | 106 lb-ft (144 Nm) | 83 lb-ft (112 Nm) |
| Peak torque at | 6,500 rpm | 7,850 rpm |
| 1290 Super Duke R | Speed Triple R | |
|---|---|---|
| Fuel capacity | 4.8 US gal (18 L) | 4.1 US gal (15.5 L) |
| 1290 Super Duke R | Speed Triple R | |
|---|---|---|
| Wheelbase | 58.3 in (1482 mm) | 56.5 in (1435 mm) |
What comes fitted, what costs extra
| 1290 Super Duke R | Speed Triple R | |
|---|---|---|
| Cornering ABS | Standard (from 2017) | Not offered |
| Wheelie Control | Standard | Not offered |
| Cruise Control | Standard (from 2017) | Not offered |
| Quickshifter | Not offered | Option |
| TFT Display | Standard (from 2017) | Not offered |
| Tire Pressure Monitoring (TPMS) | Standard | Option |
| LED Headlight | Standard (from 2017) | Not offered |
Head to head, area by area
Both bikes on the same scale, one area at a time.