By NastyNils·
Motorcycle comparison · Naked Bike
Triumph Speed Triple 1050 (MY2011) vs BMW R 1200 R Classic (MY2011)
You'll grab the Triumph Speed Triple 1050's brake lever and feel it bite like a sportbike's, never mushy. The BMW R 1200 R Classic's nose doesn't dive.
So which one do you buy?
The Speed Triple 1050 has the edge if…
Daily commuting & city riding
By a nose: Speed Triple 1050
Your daily ride leans slightly toward the Speed Triple 1050. Fit and price can easily outweigh that.
Sporty riding on twisty roads
Slight edge: Speed Triple 1050
The Speed Triple 1050 is a touch more fun when the road starts bending. Just a touch.
Which one's the smarter buy
Depends what you want it for
The Speed Triple 1050 costs less, but the R 1200 R Classic isn't the better buy for everyone. Neither is the clear better buy for the money.
What makes each one tick
Speed Triple 1050
The Speed Triple 1050 flicks over off a light push on the bar and doesn't fold in or pop back up mid-lean. The chassis tells you what's happening. The throttle wakes a long-stroke triple that doesn't chase the redline; its shove comes thick through the middle revs. Its intake howls with a raspy three-cylinder note.
Nils rode the Speed Triple 1050 in 2013 (NastyNils Testride).
R 1200 R Classic
Low in the revs, the R 1200 R Classic's flat-twin already pulls hard, and there's an eager rush from the Camhead top end higher up. Overtakes don't need planning. A sharp-edged pothole still jolts through the Telelever front. The Telelever soaks up rough backroads and holds steady.
The Voice of Experience
What actually separates them
- The R 1200 R Classic has the lower seat: 31.3 in (795 mm) vs 32.5 in (825 mm).
- The Speed Triple 1050 has the lower wet weight: 467 lb (212 kg) vs 492 lb (223 kg).
- The Speed Triple 1050 makes more peak power: 136 hp (102 kW) vs 110 hp (81 kW).
Which one for the way you ride
Comfortable long-distance riding
Not built for this
Long-haul comfort is a weak spot for both. If you tour, shop with that in mind.
A confidence-building first motorcycle
Neither is a natural fit
Both of these ask too much of a rookie. Spend your first year on something lighter.
For running costs, you won't find daylight between them. Let the test ride settle it.
Who each one is built for
What's good, and what you'll live with
Speed Triple 1050
Strengths
- Good chassis feedback
- Handy and neutral falling into a lean
- Sport-level brakes you can trust
- Distinctive triple character
- 2016 update closed the electronics gap
Trade-offs
- Charging system reliability concerns
- Limited wind protection
R 1200 R Classic
What owners say
Strengths
- Torquey, characterful boxer engine
- Stable and compliant Telelever front end
- Low-maintenance shaft drive
Trade-offs
- Inconsistent build quality and early issues
- Harsh suspension over sharp bumps
Known problems to check before you buy
Speed Triple 1050
- Generator link lead wire chafe — engine stall risk On ABS-equipped bikes, the generator link lead in the charging circuit can rub against the ABS modulator mounting bracket. Over time, vibration wears through the wire insulation. This can cause an electrical short and an unexpected engine stall.
- Neutral indicator switch incorrect washer thickness Recall 13V211000 A washer of incorrect thickness between the neutral indicator switch and the gear selector drum can cause the neutral indicator to falsely show the bike is in neutral when it is not. Releasing the clutch in this condition can cause unexpected lurching and crash risk. **Official safety recall.**
- 2011-only front brake rotor warping 2011 examples specifically reported warped front rotors (Sunstar disc supplier issue cited as a wider-industry pattern in 2011). Some replacement floating discs from grey-market sources reportedly assembled incorrectly. Triumph subsequently moved to Brembo monobloc on R variants from 2012 and revised the brake package for 2016.
- ABS warning light triggered by sensor air-gap or connector corrosion ABS warning light triggered by sensor air-gap out of specification, connector corrosion, or failed sensor. Speedometer can freeze when the rear ABS sensor fails because the speed signal on these bikes is derived from the rear-wheel ABS sensor.
- Rear wheel hub bearing premature wear The single-sided swingarm rear hub uses needle bearings that can fail before sealed bearings would in a conventional dual-sided design. Wide range of reported failure mileages (15,000–56,000 miles); inadequate factory grease and bearing quality cited by long-term owners.
- Charging system: regulator/rectifier failure leading to stator failure The factory shunt-type regulator/rectifier runs very hot because it dumps surplus charging current as heat. Over time it can fail, leaving the battery undercharged or overcharged. The heat also cooks the connector between the stator and the regulator. When the regulator fails, it can overload the stator windings and burn them out. A common pattern is a repeat stator failure soon after the regulator is replaced. This happens when the real causes are left alone: corroded or overheated connectors and the heat-prone shunt design. Typical signs are a flat battery, dimming lights, a battery warning, or the bike dying while riding.
- Starter sprag clutch failure The starter sprag clutch (one-way clutch between starter motor and crank) can fail, particularly when battery voltage is marginal at start. Symptoms: clicking sound on start, starter spins without engaging, can strip starter motor shaft teeth and contaminate the starter cover with metal shavings. Early 1050 examples reportedly used a smaller sprag than later units; later runs are less affected but pattern persists.
- Cam chain tensioner premature wear The hydraulic automatic cam chain tensioner can wear prematurely. Aggressive engine braking accelerates damage. Symptoms: "cam chain slap," rattling under load at higher revs, ticking noise. Severe cases produce aluminum filings in cases. Aftermarket manual tensioners (often GSX-R-derived) are common owner remedies.
- Clunky gearbox, particularly neutral → 1st and 1st → 2nd Universally reported gearbox feel: "notoriously clunky" shifts, particularly on cold engines and low-speed shifts. Some 2012–2013 examples additionally suffered the neutral-indicator washer fault and the transmission detent-arm spring fault (both officially recalled). False neutrals also reported on 2016+ bikes when aftermarket quickshifter rods foul the shift arm, and when the front sprocket nut works loose.
- Throttle hesitation at low RPM and small throttle openings Touchy or jumpy throttle below approximately 4,000 rpm, particularly when rolling on in turns or in slow traffic. Root cause linked to ECU map switching from throttle-position-sensor (TPS) to manifold-air-pressure (MAP) at low RPM, occasionally to oxygen-sensor drift. Pre-2016 cable-throttle behaviour; 2016+ ride-by-wire is generally smoother but some reports of aggressive throttle response in 1st and 2nd gears persist.
- Premature front fork seal leaks Fork seal leaks reported at low mileages (approx. 6,000 miles (10,000 km)) and after winter storage. Some recurrences shortly after dealer reseals, with anecdotal reports of reused parts not being properly cleaned.
- Thin tank paint, mirror-stem rust, frame paint vulnerability Tank paint reported as relatively thin compared to Japanese rivals. Mirror stems develop surface rust after several years. Frame and swingarm paint vulnerable to chipping. Fork-leg corrosion and underbelly engine paint peeling reported on long-ownership and salt-belt bikes.
- Valve cover gasket weeping (left side of head) Light oil film on the left side of the cylinder head, particularly around the four "half-moon" rubber plugs at the cam ends that require RTV sealant on reassembly. Loose valve-cover bolts can contribute. Cosmetic rather than performance impact.
R 1200 R Classic
- Fuel pump flange cracking and recall Recall 21V060000 The fuel pump flange can develop cracks over time, leading to fuel leaks. BMW issued a safety recall (NHTSA campaign 21V-060) for affected 2011-2014 models to reinforce or replace the pump.
- Fuel strip sensor failure The film-type fuel level sensor strip inside the tank commonly fails, causing the fuel gauge and remaining-range display to read erratically, drop to empty, or stop working altogether, often with a fuel warning shown on the instrument cluster. Replacement strips frequently fail again, so the fault tends to recur over the life of the bike.
- Rusting fuel filler neck Water can accumulate around the fuel filler cap area due to poor drainage, leading to rust.
What they cost used
These prices compare a 12-year-old Speed Triple 1050 with a 12-year-old R 1200 R Classic.
- Speed Triple 1050
- about $5,700
- R 1200 R Classic
- about $7,800
At 12 years old in the US market, the Triumph Speed Triple 1050 sits around $5,700 while the BMW R 1200 R Classic runs about $7,800. That's a $2,100 gap. These are estimates, not live listings.
What they share
- Gearbox
- 6-speed
- Front tire
- 120/70-17
Where the spec sheets split
| Speed Triple 1050 | R 1200 R Classic | |
|---|---|---|
| Seat height | 32.5 in (825 mm) | 31.3 in (795 mm) |
| Wet weight | 467 lb (212 kg) | 492 lb (223 kg) |
| Speed Triple 1050 | R 1200 R Classic | |
|---|---|---|
| Displacement | 1050 cc | 1170 cc |
| Engine | Inline-three | Flat-twin (boxer) |
| Cooling | Liquid-cooled | Air/oil-cooled |
| Power | 136 hp (102 kW) | 110 hp (81 kW) |
| Torque | 83 lb-ft (112 Nm) | 88 lb-ft (119 Nm) |
| Top speed | 152 mph (245 km/h) | 130 mph (209 km/h) |
| Speed Triple 1050 | R 1200 R Classic | |
|---|---|---|
| Fuel economy | 36 mpg (US) / 6.48 L/100 km | 47 mpg (US) / 5 L/100 km |
| Fuel capacity | 4.6 US gal (17.5 L) | 4.8 US gal (18 L) |
| Speed Triple 1050 | R 1200 R Classic | |
|---|---|---|
| Final drive | Chain | Shaft |
| Fork | Upside-down (USD) | Telelever |
| Rear tire | 190/55-17 | 180/55-17 |
| Wheelbase | 56.5 in (1435 mm) | 58.9 in (1495 mm) |
What comes fitted, what costs extra
| Speed Triple 1050 | R 1200 R Classic | |
|---|---|---|
| Traction Control | Standard (from 2016) | Option |
| Ride Modes | Standard (from 2016) | Not offered |
| Front Suspension Adjustable | Standard | Not offered |
Head to head, area by area
Both bikes on the same scale, one area at a time.